i think the idea with the ladder pts is good( How many i don't know). The second is that the date when the matches should be played. I know that anyone can't find a day/date where are ppl are happy with. But when a team have like 2-3 ppl online they need give w.o cause can't play slot 4 ? Thats most stupid rule in a dead game. I think when a team can play 50% of the games in a cw it should be able to play. For fairplay the teamleader can talk mb few hours or days before the cw happend and talk over how many players each team have on that day.
Than don't give special penatly pts. The thread where face would give pain -9 pts, remember? That make ppl mad, i think stuff like that mean gryphy.
This is the last warning I give, the next slanderous or disrespectful rumors made in this topic against any member of the administrative Staff will be punished with lockacct and/or temp ban.
i think we need:
1) More admins for league(STREAM + NEWS), who want do this :)?
2) 1 Division where playing active teams every weeks,
3) divide the league on 1x1 and 2x2,
4) 1st need get some money on prize and only next started league because many players dont want play free league...
5) LADDER PTS ! example: Team A 3:2 Team B, all winner players have +400 pts all losser players have +200 (500 pts + 100 extra pts for winners, like on clan wars 5 wins + 1 extra point)
+6) 3 players for start cw and 1 pp slot for all team on all clan wars...
Yes. And what's a disrespective rumor in this post? "saying: The most stupid rule?" You take things way too personally and then exaggerate them in your own mind if you're not ok with a certain phrase. It was rather a suggestion for league's improvement.
I saw there were several new trials.
Now, 2/3 of the work that needed to be done by CL admin is gone, because of the sections' inactivity. There are barely any cases to solve even after a clan league's week. I remember we were loaded with daily work. Look - now it's all in grey.
It is not difficult for someone who speaks good or at least decent english to write news articles and it does not consume that much time. After all for clan league, it's only a weekly job.
Of course, no one will do VODs, but you can extract some information from streams, is what I meant.
All in all I was just brainstorming. Someone eventually might get something intersting out of it all.
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If you look closely, all of the people who have expressed their thoughts here, are all kind of dancing around the very same ideas.
You must be very stupid uPro)gRyPhY(, what iCCup.Face moderated was written later, probably something offensive.
Don't you think he wouldn't have deleted that too?
Too many idiots like you around here. Fuck you don't understand a shit!
so much love here :)
One question to admin team : You got any donations for CL ?
I think separating the clan league into 1v1 and 2v2 might bring more players around since 2v2 is still very popular. I will be willing to donate to CL if I am able too, I have this season and will try to continue doing so. As far as 2-3 players only available to play a clan war, you can always PP a player and play that slot later. Does everyone think that Sunday is an easier day for clan wars as opposed to Saturday? Personally Sunday works good for me but having a general consensus from all the teams would give a better idea about how smooth its been running. I like the idea of having one single division instead of two. This will give the top 10 most active teams more matches and a better gaming experience. Even if two teams are completely unmatched (take eMg vs eSpi or aLc) we got crushed, but we had good manner games and it was fun to play with high level players. If there were a lot more teams out there, then two divisions would make sense, but we all know how old brood wars is and the activity has decreased severely since ICCUP first started up. I have no preference about having separate 1v1 and 2v2 leagues since I'm no 2v2 player nor a big fan of it. Though with more input from the players and team leaders we may figure out where to go with it from there.
Didn't read the whole thread word for word, but yes Clan League needs some improvement. As far as making it 3 1v1, 1 2v2, well that simply doesn't work. You would have 4 matches with the possibility of tying 2-2.
One thing I would like to see implemented is actually using one of the MOTW as the starting maps. Never understood why CL always used maps that werent in MOTW. People have been playing the MOTW the whole week and then the CL games are gonna start on some other map that most haven't been playing? Even better, since MOTW now are 8 maps, you could pick 1 starting map from MOTW and then loser would have to pick using MOTW as the map pool, rather than the entire iccup map map pack. This way MOTW actually has some impact and relevance to CL and everyone is more familiar with the maps (which makes for better quality games).
CL wont be fixed by removing 1 1x1 game, you still need 4 players to complete the CW, the problem is the inactivity and that most teams dont care about the CL anymore, we need to make it more attractive to people. A few suggestions on how to do that :
Try get some donations/prize for the winners
Add 200 pts for each bo3 win in a CL to the participants
Weekly news/updates to keep people informed on latest results, best match of the weekend.
Caster for the most interesting CW of every weekend ( I alerady got someone willing to do that )
Make only 1 division. ( smaller teams who dont manage to show up should start considering merging, to stay alive)
At every end of A CL, the MVP player of each team recive a MVP icon wich they keep until next CL ends.
I know this requires more admins, the problem is to find them. This is no offence vs Face, i appriciate his hard work, but the fact is that alot of people dont get along witch Face. I suggest try to find someone suitable to be SA CLAW, wich new admins can work under, that might make more people willing to become admin. Once again, im no trying to talk bad about Face here, but its the reality, atleast from alot people i talked with said the same thing. ( So atleast consider it, and dont take it as an persoan attack of Face )
geckoxp suggestion :
Clan League lack "publicity". Everything in our world is drives by advertizing nowadays. Why not post some news about it, analyze replays and spot some spectacular and entertaining games, do a "clan league replay of the week". There's no more VOD commentary, but many streamers - use it. Give special prizes for winners, and whatever money you can collect for the first place. There should be some ambience and motivation to make it work and get people involved from the start.
Other than that, if the CL would only feature one active division, it could be possible to still open a second or even third division for non-competitive maps and modes. If Division A would feature the ordinary clans and low maps, the other two could maybe be used for TMA, Possi, BGH or whatnot teams. Most of these modes have no home at ICCup, but there are still dozens of players spread across the public B-net. Some of them have a healthy scene, and I can imagine, some sort of interest for a league, especially on a server offering a somewhat sound Anti Hack.
I really like your idea about using div-b for ums,tma,Fastest,BGH i think it would benefit those players aswell as iCCup.
I think if motw was implemented into clan league somehow it would be beneficial. It would put more stress on learning new maps and the development of play on these maps. MVP player idea is an awesome one. Not only would a MVP icon be a simple idea to make, it would stress the importance of a player on a team and help players strive to be the best in their team. Casey has the right idea, having a cast of the most interesting CW of the week would bring more viewers. It would also create more diversity of the weeks. It wont just be another clan league day, it will bring a twist to it especially with a knowledgeable / entertaining caster. I would be more than willing to review replays of clan league matches and or help out in any way possible. I think if we can get more players / team leaders on the actual forums and get their input we can make something awesome happen here. Keep the ideas coming guys!
100% true, every player/teamleaders should contribute here and give their opinions/suggestion. We cant expect that iCCup with th few admins they are can figure this out on their own, atleast not without any input from the users. So keep discussing, and if someone can contribute with anything, please post here and let the admins know. Its up to us now, do we want to keep the CL, and how do we want it to look like in the future ? Everyone needs to work together to find a solution, and let admins know what the diffrent teams expect from the CL to make it attractive to them
PTS to players who played CW is good idea! + PTS to Team (Ladder). Icons and all other stuff is good.
Shoulda be invented years ago.
Also 3 1v1 1 2v2 is better too! u need only 2 players to play 3/4 games of CW.
Playoffs i think need make like OLD BWCL 4 1v1 2 2v2 1 3v3!
What are you still doing here, kousin? You swore to never play on this server again, I see no reason for you staying here on site either. Only spreading negativity and nothing positive to tribute this server. Do yourself and all us others a favor and please stay away. Keep to your word.
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